<TITLE>09. Par 38-41</TITLE>L-38 No one knows. It's something a turning it, they don't know why it's a turning? But it's perfectly turning. If it would move just a little bit towards the world, it would burn up. If it went a little bit away from the world, it'd freeze up. But it stays just perfectly. And the summer and the winter and the seasons comes perfectly. That's shows there's a mastermind behind it. There has to be.
Here sometime ago, I was talking to an infidel. I was in Colorado. We were going back across the mountain. And I was walking along, trailing along an elk. And he rode up, and--on his horse, and he said, "Hello."
And I said, "How do you do, sir?"
And he said, "Where you going?"
I said, "I'm going back to see... The ranger sends me back to a--a camp back here, the cow camp."
"That's top of the hill," he said, "follow this--this trail." Said, "What are you doing?"
I said, "Trailing an elk."
He said, "I don't want to lie, tell you you're a liar, but you're trailing a cow."
And I said, "I've hunted enough to know the difference between an elk and a cow." See? And he said... "Elk don't have a foot like that, or a cow don't have a foot like that; it's an elk track."
He got down and looked at it again, said, "Well, maybe you're right." He said, "You hunted before?"
I said, "A little bit."
He said, "Where you from?"
I said, "Indiana."
He said, "What's your occupation?"
I said, "A game warden."
He said, "You're not even welcome in the country," real rough, hard-boiled.

L-39 I said, "Well, I'm here anyhow." I said, "Bob Steel sent me back here which is the Interstate Game Commission. I'm back here to hunt a grizzly bear."
He said, "There's no grizzlies back here."
I said, "He said there was. I'll take his word for it."
So, he said, "Can you ride?"
Now, you have to be careful when saying that. And I said, "Oh," I said, "I rode a little bit." And I said, "I'm no rider though."
Said, "Think you can ride this horse?"
Said, "Yes, sir."
"Well, jump on." He said, "And you're a game warden?"
I said, "Not of this country." 'Cause I knowed if I'd been, he was a violator. So I said, "Not of this country, of Indiana."
And he said, "Well..."
I said, "I have got nothing to do with your laws here. I'm just back here as a courtesy; I'm hunting this bear."
And he said, "Well, I don't believe the bear's back there."
And I said, "Well, we'll know more about that when I hunt him."
And he said, "Get a pretty good wage?"

L-40 And I said, "No, not much." I said, "See, the reason I'm a game warden," I said, "I do that for my occupation, for a living, but I am minister."
He said, "A what?"
I said, "A preacher."
He said, "You look too intelligent for that."
And I said, "Well now, sir, that's the most intelligent thing that I know of."
And he said, "Now, you believe that virgin birth?"
And I said, "Yes, sir."
He said, "I want you to tell you the first place; I'm an infidel."
And I said, "Well, that's nothing to brag about."
And he said, "Well," he said...

L-41 A... I said, "I don't mean to get back at you; I'm riding your horse." But I said, "I just want you to know, tell you this thing, that you're a fallen brother, and you're--you should be straightened out."
Said, "You straighten me then. You straighten me on the virgin birth, I'll accept it." He said, "I don't believe there's one word of it true."
I said, "You don't?"
He said, "No, sir, it's against all scientific proof."
I said, "What books have you read?" He'd read Darwin, the "Ethics of Darwin" and so forth. I said, "Yeah, but you haven't read the right Book."
"Oh, I've read the Bible too."
I said, "Well, you don't believe It?"
He said, "Look, preacher,..." After about a hour's discussion, he said, "There's not a possible way in the world for that to be." He said, "It's against all scientific..."
I said, "You'll never know God by science. You know God by faith."


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